…and thus a monster was borne.

SurlyiPhone’s AJAX SDK: No, thank you.
SurlyWil shipley nuts out
Surly“Us programming in AJAX while Apple programs in real OS X is basically a case of Apple not eating its own dogfood, except that JavaScript isn’t dogfood, it’s dog shit.”
Surlywell, not nuts out but basically got drunk and went “Hey, I’m Will Fucking Shipley”
Annoyedhaha
SurlyI’m just guessing
Surlylike Frank Miller’s “I’m the goddamn Batman” nonsense, I figure Shipley tells people “I’m goddamn Delicious”
Surlyor something
AnnoyedWill SHIPLEY, not wheaton, you fools.
Surlyha ha
Surlyomygod, that would be hilarious
AnnoyedI feel like maybe there should be a UI guideline against burning up a bunch of the screen on widgets that are worse than useless, except maybe not because it is SO DAMN OBVIOUS THAT RUNNING AN APPLICATION INSIDE A BROWSER IS AN INFERIOR USER EXPERIENCE.
Surlyya
AnnoyedJavaScript was thrown together by some dudes a couple years ago to make web pages kind of, like, do shit and stuff.
Surlygood stuff
Annoyed…he’s such a tool
Surlyhe is, but he’s a tool with influence
Surlyand really, the whole online apps vs. desktop apps holy war that is apparently going on is beyond fucking boring
Annoyedyeah
Surlybut whatever, he does have some points
Annoyedits like. “we all know that online apps suck. move on. So does apple.”
SurlyI think Will Shipley and whomever else should should have a cagematch with the 37Signals crew and whoever else and be done with it
Annoyedlike…i really do think apple should have just said “no apps fer you!”
Surlybecause seriously, I don’t fucking care about your nerd politics
Annoyedoh man. backpackers are STOOOKED i’m sure
Surlythey should have been wishy washy, that’s for sure
Surlyshouldn’t, that is… not be wishy washy with the whole “we’re working on” thing
Surlyand then dropping the WWDC bomb
Annoyedyeah
Surlyhttp://www.red-sweater.com/blog/370/wil-shipley-iphone-sdk
Surlychrist he’s getting around
Surlywell, at least it’s a more interesting converstation than OMG, BATTERY
AnnoyedDID YOU HERE YOU CNT REMOOV IT?
SurlySEE< APPLE JUS WANTS TO SCREW YOU CAUSE MY TREO HAZ BATTERIEZ
SurlyPENIS
SurlyI should probably turn of IM logging
Surlyjust a thought
Annoyedhahaha
Annoyedtrue story - i love leopard’s dock
Annoyedbecause it could be sitting on a reflective turd
Surlyha ha
Annoyedthe springable folders make it USEFUL
Surlyoh yea
Annoyedfor the first time in 8 years
Surlytotally
Surlyand stacks was cooler than I initially thought
Annoyedyeah
Surlybut spring-loaded … christ, I would seriously pay whatever Apple asked just for that
Annoyedyeah.
Annoyedalthough the new window shadows make drawers look HORRIBLE
Annoyedi hope everyone changes their shit
Surlyyeah
Surlythe huge drop shadow and lighter inactive windows make it kind of jarring when you bring a new app to the front
Surlyit’s kind of like “hey, did you see that flash”
Surlyit’s weird
Surlyshouldnt’ inactive windows be dimmer, not lighter than front windows?
Surlyand with the big shadow, it’s like “was jus happened…dizzy”
Annoyedi think that’s just gonna take time
Annoyedi kinda like having everything be the darker unified
Annoyedits less painful on the eyes
Surlyoh, i agree
Surlyit mostly is am improvement in apps
Annoyedand will require people to ditch the aqua icons in toolbars
Annoyedwhereas the lighter color, you can skate by with older-style icons
Surlyyeah, which is the only thing I find unfortunate
SurlyI think with the button style, there are going to be a lot more crappy looking icons
Surlybut whatever, I guess
Annoyedhmm..i dunno. i think at some point there may be a “unification of buttons”
Annoyedlike, why make new back/forth arrows?
Annoyedor new homebutton?
Surlytrue
Surlyit’s fucking clear that we are in the wrong business
Annoyedf’srs.
Surlyif John Gruber can be a “pro” blogger
Annoyedhonestly i’d love to fucking blog for a living so much.
Surlythan clearly we could have, like, a public Campfire chatroom and charge people to watch us talk about Wil Shipley
Annoyedbasically we could just talk on IM all day
Annoyedand post that
Annoyedhaha
SurlyXACTLY
AnnoyedDAMN WE ARE AMAZING
Surly“today, Justin and Travis are going to talk about how crazy Shipley is”
Annoyedmaybe we should put up a website called “shit we know things about”
Surly“by comparing him to Frank Miller’s Batman in the oft delayed ASBAR”
Surly“also, John Gruber is a douche”
Surlyit would totally sell
Annoyed“Infinite Loop sucks.”
Surlyi peed a little
Surlythere’s got to be a business model there
Annoyedin peeing?
Annoyedprobably